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Posted By: gabrijela
Subject: D: Znanost protiv vegana: 4 najvece laži o mesu!
Date Posted: 14 Sijecanj 2017 at 11:45
Svi komentari na temu: /prehrana/nutricionizam/Znanost-vegani-lazi-i-istine-o-mesu.aspx - Znanost protiv vegana: 4 najvece laži o mesu!
Svakom kako hoce,znanost je precijenjena i stalno u mijeni..pomisao na šok životinje koja je ubijena na vrlo ružan nacin,relativno svjesne tipa krave..jednostavno ne zelim tako nesto unositi u sebe.
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Posted By: iver
Date Posted: 15 Sijecanj 2017 at 19:19
Cijenjena redakcijo i @Zoki, pretpostavljam da Vam je jasno kako i mnogi ljudi sa težim zdravstvenim problemima dolaze na ovu stranicu tražeći SLAMKU spasa za sebe i zbog toga ovakvo pisanje mi zbilja izbaci osigurač. Stoga bi bilo pohvalno da imate i bar MINIMUM etičke odgovornosti za sadržaj članaka, neovisno o napomeni da informacije na stranici ne služe za liječenje, xyz, itd... Ovo što je ovdje našvrljano, je iskrivljena znanost i selektivno biranje informacija u cilju senzacionalizma, koja nažalost samo još jednom dokazuje da najviše gluposti u svijetu piše na fitnes i nadriliječničkim portalima. Vrste upala kao i njihovi uzroci tj korjeni, od genetike pa nadalje do xyz vrsta poremećaja uslijed načina života, je bezbroj, pa je bezbroj i preporučene prehrane a ne ovako bedasta besmislena simplifikacija. Nekom je zdravije sa manje mesa, nekome sa više, i zaista je kod velikog broja upala preporuka za crveno meso koje sadrži i zasićene masnoće svega par puta tjedno, tj svedeno na minimum, i uglavnom samo kuhano. Nisu u pravu ni vegani, ni mesojedi, jednostavno zbog činjenice da smo svi različiti, pa tako i osjetljivi na različite stvari.
Pojma nemam tko piše ovakve članke, navedena autorica ili netko piše samo u njeno ime, ali već navod "Upravo suprotno, niz je studija potvrdio da prehrana sa smanjenim udjelom ugljikohidrata, a povećanim unosom crvenog mesa smanjuje upalne procese u organizmu." je glupost, jer postoji veoma mali broj bolesti, upala i poremećaja gdje je povećana konzumacija mesa zdravija od povećana konzumacije povrća i smanjenog mesa u prehrani.
Dodatno, činjenica da uspoređuje meso( što je NAMIRNICA) sa ugljikohidratima(što je MAKRONUTRIJENT a ne namirnica) govori o totalnom neznanju i da ne zna ni google artikle protumačiti. Mogla je bar razdvojiti rafinirane ugljikohidrate kao šećer, fruktoze kao sladila u pićima, itd.(koji nekima zaista mogu biti štetni), , od ugljikohidrata u voću i povrću, kad je već radila razliku između komada mesa i hrenovke. A u bilo kojoj novijoj knjizi ili sveučilišnom udžbeniku o kliničkoj prehrani(nažalost nema ih prevedene na HR) je već dovoljno rečeno na ovu temu. Za BOLESNE ili one koji spadaju u rizične skupine, ovo nije stvar odabira nego preživljavanja, i krajnje je NEODGOVORNO na ovaj način pisati, pa sad neka netko npr sa hroničnom upalom gušterače sad navali na meso i nakon x godina umjesto da se izlječi veća je vjerojatnost da će umrijeti u teškim bolovima. Tako da jest istina da crveno meso može imati nezdrave učinke koji nisu navedeni, ali i pojedina povrća ili prerađevine za nekog mogu biti štetne.
Kao i o temi kalorijske restrikcije kao produljavanja zdravog ili općenito životnog vijeka, gdje autor-ica opet pokazuje totalno nepoznavanje, jer je bit u restrikciji kalorija a ne nutrijenata( pojednostavljeno- znači uglavnom konzumacija niskokaroričnih ali nutritivno bogatih namirnica), i periodično može biti itekako korisna i restrikcija proteina, zbog stimuliranja jedne vrste autofagije(jer ih ima više) za razgradnju beskorisnih a moguće i štetnih velikih molekula proteina u ćelijama na aminokiseline, koje tijelo može opet iskoristiti za sintezu proteina, znači tijelo je dovoljno pametno da po potrebi radi i recikliranje proteina. Smanjen unos proteina inducira autofagiju tj razgradnju štetnih i nepotrebnih proteina unutar ćelije, a time smanjuje i vjerojatnost nastanka mnogih bolesti. Na kraju krajeva je i Nobelova nagrada iz medicine i fiziologije dodijeljena baš za istraživanja autofagije. No besmisleno je ovdje nabrojati sve, ali oko usporavanja starenja ima već dosta utvrđenih činjenica, pored raznih teorija i hipoteza koje su u fazi ispitivanja. Potvrđena činjenica je i da mTOR putanja koju bodibilderi i autorica obožavaju, ubrzava starenje dok AMPK putanja usporava,( pa vježbajte naravno jer mišići luče miokine potrebne za cjelokupno zdravlje, ali sa mjerom tj nemojte se ubijati, ili ubacite periode laganog treninga). Umjesto par istraživanja i googlanja, bi bilo korisnije pročitati malo literature, koje objašnjavaju što jest prihvaćena činjenica a što samo hipoteza, na ovu temu npr Cell Aging: Molecular Mechanisms and Implications for Disease, ili koju noviju npr iz 2017, Biology of Aging.
Samo kao zanimljivost, prvu knjigu na temu kalorijske restrikcije i zdravlja je napisao talijanski filozof Luigi Cornaro, u 83.godini života cca 1540. godine. Bio je poznat po tome što je jeo malo i samo birane namirnice, a doživio je u to doba izuzetno rjetkih 98 godina.
U forumu svi povremeno lupetamo, ali ovako pisati članke na naslovnici kojima velikom broju bolesnih možete život upropastiti je BEsramno neodgovorno. Meni osobno ne smetaju, jer znam dovoljno da se nasmijem na bedastoću, ali najveći broj zdravstveno ugroženih nažalost ne zna,, pa ako povjeruju u članak samo kažemo "TKO im je kriv? " Ili ?
Pa dajte molim vas da o temama koje se tiču zdravlja piše netko tko bar ima pojma o tome, ili nemojte pisati takve teme. Osim toga, autorica bi mogla jednom naučiti da postoji razlika između njenih omiljenih "studija" i znanstveno prihvaćenih činjenica, studije se provode na različitim skupinama ljudi, tako da se ne može poistovjetiti rezultat, kao ni rizični faktori, i pojedinačne studije skoro ništa ne znače. Tako je i u članku o zasićenim masnoćama usporedila meta analizu(koju je znanstveni svijet popljuvao) sa opservacijskim studijama u zadnjih 50 godina koje činjenično dokazuju faktore rizika kod kardiovaskularnih bolesnika. Ovaj članak se ne bazira nimalo na znanosti, nego ISKRIVLJENOJ selektivnoj interpretaciji znanosti i senzacionalizmu.
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Posted By: Zoki
Date Posted: 17 Sijecanj 2017 at 09:08
Pozdrav Iver, hvala na konstruktivnom komentaru. Clanak je inspiriran clankom s T-nationa. Sve koje zanima ova tema, uz ovaj naš clanak, preporucamo da podrobnije prate ovu temu kroz sve medije.
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Posted By: rubi_
Date Posted: 17 Sijecanj 2017 at 14:45
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Puno je ovdje ne istina. Naši bake, djedovi, prabake itd. se nisu hranili kao što se vecina ljudi hrane danas. Tada je meso bilo 'luksuz'... jelo se jednom u tjedan dana, a ne kao danas 1kg mesa dnevno..a da ne pricam o benefitima biljne prehrane, zato su ljudi i živjeli duže nego što žive danas.
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Posted By: Zoki2
Date Posted: 17 Sijecanj 2017 at 15:03
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Ne znam da li ovdje rade linkovi na web stranice, pa cu vrlo pojednostaviti pricu. Ukucajte u Google "annual meat consumption", stavite pretragu na slike, a zatim "global cancer footprint", pa usporedite ih, vidjet cete da se gotovo savršeno poklapaju ?? Konzumacija mesa u svijetu i stooa raka se savršeno prate! Ako vam to nije dovoljan dokaz, ukucajte China study i American Institute For Cancer Research i procitajte službeni stav Americkog Instituta za Istraživanje Raka gdje ce vam reci da je konzumiranje životinjskih proizvoda uzrok ne samo raka, vec i brojnih drugih bolesti poput dijabetesa, ateroskleroze, osteoporoze, pretilosti itd. da ne vjerujete industrijama i studijama koje pokušavaju zbuniti javnost, i da je to dokazano "in study after study, year after year".
Ljudsko probavilo nije stvoreno za probavu mesa. Dk je crijevo mesoždera relativno kratko (3 dužine tijela) i glatko iznutra, ljudsko crijevo je 12 puta duže od tijela te duboko obavijeno i naborano. Kako nema vlastita vlakna, meso se prilicno teško mice kroz dugo, smotano ljudsko probavilo. Prije nego stigne do kraja probavnog trakta postaje trulo i otrovno za organizam.
P.S. nemojte više lagat ovaj napaceni narod. Lijepi pozdrav! ???
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Posted By: Ivana_SnagaBilja
Date Posted: 17 Sijecanj 2017 at 23:30
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Poštovana autorice teksta stiže korisna nadopuna znanja. Vrijedi procitati i formirati ispravnije mišljenje.
(by Vegan BB/Nutrition; Snaga Bilja FB) Pozdrav!
OSVRT na: https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/10-things-vegetarians-get-wrong
Claim #1 – Saturated fat does not clog arteries.
T-Nation: “2009 review in American Journal of Clinical Nutrition analyzed research from 21 studies with saturated fat intake from 350,000 people and found no association with heart disease.”
The study being cited is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824152/
“A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant
evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat.”
The cited study was published in 2009, but a 2012 Cochrane review found a different outcome.
“This updated review suggested that reducing saturated fat by reducing and/or modifying
dietary fat reduced the risk of cardiovascular events by 14%.” In studies examining fat
modification (not reduction of total intake, but switching fats in the diet), a reduction in CVD events was observed, but effects on mortality were unclear. The analysis is limited by few studies examining reduced vs modified fat intakes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22592684
SFA affect the arterial wall and may promote stiffness in arteries due to low-grade inflammation.
The anti-inflammatory potential of HDL is reduced after consumption of saturated fat-containing meals, impairing function of the arterial endothelial cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2878127/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15580061
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904539
Counseling families to feed children low saturated fat diets results in lower rates of metabolic syndrome as teenagers and young adults (up to 20 years old).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25605660
Also, see point #4 about other adverse health outcomes associated with saturated fats.
Claim #3 – Processed meats are not as healthy as unprocessed meats.
The reference list on T-Nation includes this study from the European Prospective Investigation
into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC study). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23497300
“After multivariate adjustment, a high consumption of red meat was related to higher all-
cause mortality (hazard ratio (HR) = 1.14, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.01 to 1.28, 160+
versus 10 to 19.9 g/day), and the association was stronger for processed meat (HR = 1.44, 95%
CI 1.24 to 1.66, 160+ versus 10 to 19.9 g/day). After correction for measurement error, higher
all-cause mortality remained significant only for processed meat (HR = 1.18, 95% CI 1.11 to
1.25, per 50 g/d). We estimated that 3.3% (95% CI 1.5% to 5.0%) of deaths could be prevented if all participants had a processed meat consumption of less than 20 g/day. Significant associations with processed meat intake were observed for cardiovascular diseases, cancer, and 'other causes of death'. The consumption of poultry was not related to all-cause mortality.”
There is evidence that processed red meats are associated with CVD, whereas red meats in
other forms (not processed) are not as well associated with CVD.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24932617
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/121/21/2271.full
Claim #4 – PUFA are associated with heart disease, but SFA are not.
The first part is not in line with the current evidence. For the second part, see point #1.
Replacement of SFA with PUFA for at least a year results in less CHD (myocardial infarction
and/or cardiac death) risk, and longer duration increases benefits. When subjects ate 8-21% of energy from PUFA, the pooled risk reduction was 19% compared to subjects eating 4-6% of energy from PUFA. This corresponds to a 10% reduction in CHD risk for each 5% increase in PUFA consumption.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774
“Convincing evidence was found that partial replacement of saturated fat (SFA) with
polyunsaturated fat (PUFA) or monounsaturated fat (MUFA) lowers fasting serum/plasma total and LDL cholesterol concentrations… Furthermore, there was convincing evidence that partial replacement of SFA with PUFA decreases the risk of CVD, especially in men."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25045347
“Furthermore, there was convincing evidence that partial replacement of SFA with PUFA
decreases the risk of CVD, especially in men. This finding was supported by an association with biomarkers of PUFA intake;; the evidence of a beneficial effect of dietary total PUFA, n-6 PUFA, and linoleic acid (LA) on CVD mortality was limited suggestive. Evidence for a direct association between total fat intake and risk of T2DM was inconclusive, whereas there was limited- suggestive evidence from biomarker studies that LA is inversely associated with the risk of T2DM.” Note that LA is an essential fatty acid and is found in plants.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25045347
There may be specific SFA associated with disease risk. For CVD, palmitic and myristic acids
were shown to be adversely associated with CVD risk factors in Alaskan Natives. For diabetes, higher circulating levels of palmitic and stearic acids in blood are associated with greater risk.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26274054
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527759
Higher SFA intake is associated with reduced bone mineral density, particularly in men.
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/136/1/159.full
Over-feeding SFA palmitic acid produced more weight gain in visceral adipose and liver fat
compared to PUFA linoleic acid.
“Both groups gained similar weight. SFAs, however, markedly increased liver fat compared with PUFAs and caused a twofold larger increase in visceral adipose tissue than PUFAs.
Conversely, PUFAs caused a nearly threefold larger increase in lean tissue than SFAs.
Increase in liver fat directly correlated with changes in plasma SFAs and inversely with PUFAs.”
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/63/7/2356.long
There are other studies suggesting that other types of fats are more harmful than SFA, such as
trans fat.
“Saturated fats are not associated with all cause mortality, CVD, CHD, ischemic stroke,
or type 2 diabetes, but the evidence is heterogeneous with methodological limitations. Trans
fats are associated with all cause mortality, total CHD, and CHD mortality, probably because of higher levels of intake of industrial trans fats than ruminant trans fats.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26268692
Claim #5 – Lineolic acid is the dominant at in vegetable oil, and consumption is linked to tumor growth. Conjugated lineolic acid found in animal fat has proven effective in
preventing cancer.
Lineolic acid (LA) is not associated with tumor growth or CVD (see above).
“Large scale human epidemiological studies indicate that high intakes of linoleic acid protect
against the development of cancer.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9561154
“We reviewed the epidemiologic and experimental literature on linoleic acid intake and cancer
risk and performed additional meta-analyses of risk estimates from case-control and prospective
cohort studies. None of the combined estimates from within-population studies indicated a
significantly increased risk of cancer with high compared with low intakes of linoleic acid or
polyunsaturated fat.“
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/68/1/142.abstract
“It seems that no consistent result was observed even in similar studies conducted at different
laboratories, this may be due to variations in age, gender, racial and geographical disparities,
coupled with type and dose of CLA supplemented. Thus, supposed promising results reported
in mechanistic and pre-clinical studies cannot be extrapolated with humans, mainly due to the
lack of inconsistency in analyses, prolonged intervention studies, follow-up studies and
international co-ordination of concerted studies. Briefly, clinical evidences accumulated thus far
show that CLA is not eliciting significantly promising and consistent health effects so as to
uphold it as neither a functional nor a medical food. “
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25972911
Claim #8 – Vegans and vegetarians do not have lower rates of disease.
T-Nation mentioned Seventh Day Adventists (generally vegetarian) and Mormons (not
vegetarian) as study populations. Both groups tend to avoid smoking and alcohol use, allowing
potential associations with other lifestyle factors like diet to be studied. They cited 22% lower
cancer rate and 34% lower mortality rate from colon cancer in the Mormons compared to the
general American population.
It does appear Mormons have lower cancer rates and mortality rates compared to the general
population.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15904509
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17920112
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6933238
Mormons were examined in a study looking at the connection between families and cancer risk.
Familial factors were implicated in a substantial portion of cancer risk.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15779016
Mormons also have lower rates of cardiovascular disease deaths.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/727204
“Accordingly, mortality rates of Mormons and Seventh-day Adventists show a significant lower
level when compared with cancer data of lung, colon and rectum, and prostate from the best
German cancer registry (Saarland). Some tumor rates are higher in Mormons, e.g. malignant
melanoma, also all types of malignant lymphoma and myeloma. The life expectancy is generally
elevated by 2-4 years in Mormons and Seventh-day Adventists.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1449267
T-Nation: “Despite the Seventh Day Adventists' low rate of colorectal cancer, they seem to be at
a higher risk of other cancers – Hodgkin's disease, malignant melanoma, brain, skin, uterine,
prostate, endometrial, cervical, and ovarian cancer.”
The Adventist Health Studies in America started in 1960 and are still ongoing today. The initial
study in 1960-1965 showed Adventists had 60-76% lower death rates from all cancers, and
reduced incidence of lung, colorectal, and breast cancers, and lower coronary heart disease.
The second study in 1974-1988 identified several dietary factors that were associated with
reduced risk of heart disease and select cancers. The third study started in 2002. The studies
are summarized here: http://publichealth.llu.edu/adventist-health-studies
In Danish Adventists, lower rates of cancer in the lung, buccal cavity, liver, cervix, rectum, and
stomach were observed in a 2012 study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22910035
The rates of various cancers in vegetarians (vegetarian, pesco-vegetarian, vegan, and other
categories) are well organized here, including the Adventist, EPIC-Oxford, and other similar
studies: http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/cancer
There are lower rates of all cancers in vegetarians, plus lower incidence of the several specific
cancers in vegetarians, including colorectal, prostate, breast, stomach, pancreatic, brain
(meningioma), oral, bladder, and lymphatic & hematopoietic tissues (non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma,
multiple myeloma). Not all studies separated vegans from other types of vegetarians, but it
appears that not consuming meat provides a reduction in cancer risk.
Looking at this data, I would venture that the avoidance of smoking and alcohol use is likely a
large contributor to the health outcomes measured. The connection between smoking and
cardiovascular disease risk is well established, and there is also data on alcohol use and cancer
risk. Another factor to consider is that Adventists emphasize maintaining a healthy body weight,
and adiposity/obesity is associated with cancer risk. Vegetarians have a significant difference in
BMI from non-vegetarians in the Adventist studies.
“The 5-unit BMI difference between vegans and nonvegetarians indicates a substantial potential
of vegetarianism to protect against obesity. Increased conformity to vegetarian diets protected
against risk of type 2 diabetes after lifestyle characteristics and BMI were taken into account.
Pesco- and semi-vegetarian diets afforded intermediate protection."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2671114/
More on BMI and cancer risk, alcohol and cancer risk
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/smo
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/96/9/3243.full
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/alcohol/alcohol-fact-sheet
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Claim #9 – Vegetarians do not live longer.
T-Nation: “Research from 1973 in the American Journal of Epidemiology found higher all-cause
mortality rates in both vegetarian men (0.93%) and women (0.86%) compared to their non-
vegetarian counterparts (men 0.89%, women 0.54%).”
I cannot find a study about vegetarian mortality in the American Journal of
Epidemiology’s archive for 1973. The first study that comes up in the search feature is a 1974
paper that shows vegetarians have lower blood pressure.
Vegetarian mortality is about half that of the study populations in several large studies.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/dxrates
Emphasizing a more plant-based diet (without having people commit to veganism) appears to
offer protection in the PREDIMED study.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/100/Supplement_1/320S.long
A recent meta-analysis using 7 studies containing nearly 125,000 people found lower mortality,
disease, and cancer in vegetarians.
“Seven studies with a total of 124,706 participants were included in this analysis. All-
cause mortality in vegetarians was 9% lower than in nonvegetarians (RR = 0.91;; 95% CI, 0.66-
1.16). The mortality from ischemic heart disease was significantly lower in vegetarians than in
nonvegetarians (RR = 0.71;; 95% CI, 0.56-0.87). We observed a 16% lower mortality from
circulatory diseases (RR = 0.84;; 95% CI, 0.54-1.14) and a 12% lower mortality from
cerebrovascular disease (RR = 0.88;; 95% CI, 0.70-1.06) in vegetarians compared with
nonvegetarians. Vegetarians had a significantly lower cancer incidence than nonvegetarians
(RR = 0.82;; 95% CI, 0.67-0.97).” http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22677895
If vegetarians have lower mortality rates, they are likely living longer. J?
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/526S.long
Many of the groups known for their longevity emphasize plant-based diets, not necessarily
vegan diets. There are potential mechanisms for longevity extension in plant-based diets –
methionine restriction, reduction of IGF-1, lower energy intakes (calorie restriction), and
antioxidant consumption. Plant proteins are lower in methionine content than animal proteins.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12699704
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23454735
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24291541
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10696634
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17299498
Claim #12 – The brain needs saturated fat and cholesterol, and lower levels of these
lipids are associated with cognitive impairment, Alzheimer’s, and Parkinson’s.
T-Nation mentions that breast milk contains high amounts of saturated fat to nourish our
developing brains, and that brain support from cholesterol is one reason why cholesterol levels
increase as we age.
In general, higher saturated and trans fat intakes are associated with reduced cognition. This
appears to be related to the hippocampus, and not the frontal cortex.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23291218
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22023100
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21167850
Saturated fats may increase neurodegenerative responses to dietary copper.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908733
There is evidence that high fat diets are associated with inflammation in the brain, including in
the hypothalamus before weight gain is apparent.
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/62/8/2629.full
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005045
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24075847 (in rodents)
Studies in rodents suggest the mechanism is a transfer of inflammatory signals from the gut to
the hypothalamus through the nodose ganglion.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X15303272
We are unable to do experiments where we try to give people neurodegenerative diseases, but
observational studies and rodent models suggest that dietary fat, particularly saturated and
trans fat, are associated with the development of neurodegenerative diseases.
Review of human observational studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4107296/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24916582
Insulin resistance is associated with Alzheimer’s. See above for discussion on various SFA and
diabetes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26159189
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26003667
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24998414
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23790682
It appears that high fat diet promotes Alzheimer’s, potentially independently of tau and amyloid
protein pathways. (These are the proteins that form tangles/clusters in AD brains that can cause
symptoms.)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24269929
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24630364
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24205258
Claim #13: Consumption of animal foods increased human brain size.
T-Nation: “The incorporation of increasingly greater amounts of animal products into the diet
was essential in the development of the large human brain.” – Aiello and Wheeler, Current
Anthropology, 1995
While the inclusion of calorie-rich animal foods likely did contribute to development of the
human brain, there are other contributors as well, including cooking and social interaction.
Cooking increases the available calorie content of food, and also makes some nutrients more
bioavailability. The combination of modest amounts of animal foods and cooking (both plants
and meat) produced a shift in calorie intake to support brain development.
“Mechanisms contributing to energy being gained from cooking include increased digestibility of
starch and protein, reduced costs of digestion for cooked versus raw meat, and reduced
energetic costs of detoxification and defence against pathogens. If cooking consistently
improves the energetic value of foods through such mechanisms, its evolutionary impact
depends partly on the relative energetic benefits of non-thermal processing methods used prior
to cooking.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19732938
“This limitation was probably overcome in Homo erectus with the shift to a cooked diet. Absent
the requirement to spend most available hours of the day feeding, the combination of newly
freed time and a large number of brain neurons affordable on a cooked diet may thus have been
a major positive driving force to the rapid increased in brain size in human evolution.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23090991
“These changes in diet and foraging behavior did not turn our hominid ancestors into carnivores;;
however, the addition of modest amounts of meat to the diet combined with the sharing of
resources that is typical of hunter-gatherer groups would have significantly increased the quality
and stability of hominid diets. These changes in dietary quality appear to have been critical in
promoting the rapid brain evolution seen with the evolution of H. erectus. While dietary change
alone cannot explain the evolution of large hominid brains, a sufficiently high quality diet was
probably necessary for supporting the increased energy demands of larger brains.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14527625
Processing social cues and interacting with others may have also helped drive human brain
development, as time was available for more social interactions in early humans who were not
foraging all day.
"In the spirit of these objectives, we present here a new theoretical proposal, the Inferential
Brain Hypothesis, whereby the human brain is thought to be characterized by a shift from
perceptual processing to inferential computation, particularly within the social realm. This shift is
believed to be a driving force for the evolution of the large human cortex."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22459075
"Thus, humans have evolved towards increased collaboration and mutual support. This kind of
evolutionary pressure may have provided the basis for the development of the human brain with
its unique functions."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23414685
"Focusing on recent research from nonhuman primates, we describe how the primate brain
might implement social functions by coopting and extending preexisting mechanisms that
previously supported nonsocial functions. This approach reveals that highly specialized
mechanisms have evolved to decipher the immediate social context, and parallel circuits have
evolved to translate social perceptual signals and nonsocial perceptual signals into partially
integrated social and nonsocial motivational signals, which together inform general-purpose
mechanisms that command behavior."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23754410
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Posted By: ZorroRi
Date Posted: 18 Sijecanj 2017 at 09:24
Poštovani,
hvala vam svima na konstruktivnim odgovorima, komentarima i izražavanju mišljenja. Tema o kojoj sam pisala je svakako kontroverzna i ocekivano izaziva razlicite stavove. Vjerujem da ce dostupnost informacija svakome pomoci da se opredijeli želi li i u kojoj mjeri konzumirati meso.
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