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Topic: Whey protein i kazein - razgradnja?
Posted By: soner_9393
Subject: Whey protein i kazein - razgradnja?
Date Posted: 06 Rujan 2010 at 13:06
Originally posted by Iluvatar Iluvatar wrote:



samo ti pokušavam reci da je vrijeme do pocetka resorpcije wheya i kazeina u biti isto


E illy, jel imaš neki link za ovo? ak je tak ,onda cu i u pwm rješavat kazein jer ga mogu nabavit za jefinjaru


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Posted By: Iluvatar
Date Posted: 06 Rujan 2010 at 15:17
Imam vrlo pozdan izvor, a mogao bi se naci i link na neku studiju samo mi se ne da tražiti :P a izvor je lyle mcdonald

što se tice wheya... whey koncentrat se oko 3-4 sata resorbira tako da se može i preko 30 grama

a ti sonner, javljaj na pm za kazein

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Posted By: soner_9393
Date Posted: 06 Rujan 2010 at 21:34
Ok, budem potražio za apsorbciju blabla.. 

e da, daj pocisti inbox jer ti je pun


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Posted By: Iluvatar
Date Posted: 06 Rujan 2010 at 23:31
Originally posted by soner_9393 soner_9393 wrote:

Ok, budem potražio za apsorbciju blabla.. e da, daj pocisti inbox jer ti je pun


lol. sorry , riješeno

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Posted By: zmaj
Date Posted: 07 Rujan 2010 at 00:20

sta onda ispada da je whey i kazein u biti isto. ja nekako nevirujen bas u to



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Posted By: davor23
Date Posted: 07 Rujan 2010 at 00:26
Originally posted by zmaj zmaj wrote:

sta onda ispada da je
whey i kazein u biti isto. ja nekako nevirujen
bas u to



Cudno malo.. Uvijek se govorilo da se whey
pije odmah iza treninga jer se odmah
apsorbira, a kazein npr. navecer jer se dugo
otpusta.. A mozda im je vrijeme do
zapocinjanja apsorbiranja jednako, ali vrijeme
otpustanja razlicito..

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Posted By: Gym_girl
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 11:19
http://www.bodyrecompositi&#ššš;n.com/nutriti&#ššš;n/what-are-good-sources-of-protein-speed-of-digesti&#ššš;n-pt1.html - Lyle Mcdonald

eto ga, to je to Illy?

..dakle i jedan i drugi ulaze u krvotok u relativno isto vrijeme, samo je razlika u dizanju razine aminokiselina gdje je whey u prednosti..

whey povecava sintezu proteina ali ne zaustavlja razgradnju, dok kazein radi obrnuto... zato kombinirajte jedno i drugo nakon treninga pa dobite oboje, ili whey uzmite prije treninga (ili tokom, dwm) pa kasnije npr. samo kazein...

tako ja to shvatih

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Posted By: davor23
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 11:24
Pa po meni bi najbolje bilo whey iste minute kad zavrsi trening, a za
jedno 20-30min kazein.. Iako mislim da kazein ne treba, vec za nekih
45 min kruti obrok..

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Posted By: Zoki
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 11:33
Otvorio sam novu temu za ovu diskusiju!

Evo, pokrenuta je rasprava u temi o zobenim pahuljicama, da li se brže razgrađuje whey protein ili kasein.

Molim da se sva daljnja rasprava obavlja ovdje!
  

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Posted By: Gym_girl
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 11:37
a zašto bi ih odvajao?

..u slucaju da ti obrok nije u 45 min....nego nekih 2h nakon treninga...

ili ovo govoriš samo u slucaju tako brzog obroka nakon pwm-a?

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Posted By: soner_9393
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 12:05
Komplicirate. Tokom treninga pijuckajte whey sa dextrozom i kad dođete doma, otuširate se i jedete kruti obrok 


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Posted By: davor23
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 12:14
Evo bas kako je soner rekao..

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Posted By: zika
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 12:37
slažem se

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Posted By: davor23
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 12:42
Ja nikada nisam pio PWM kao DWM.. mozda sad pocnem jer cu radit
trening snage.. Soner, koliko onda dexa i proteina stavis u shake ako
je i za DWM I PWM?

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Posted By: Gym_girl
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 14:15
Originally posted by soner_9393 soner_9393 wrote:

Komplicirate. Tokom treninga pijuckajte whey sa dextrozom i kad dođete doma, otuširate se i jedete kruti obrok 


Naravno da kompliciramo, da ne kompliciramo ovaj forum bi imao 80% manje tema



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Posted By: Zoki
Date Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 15:32
Originally posted by Gym_girl Gym_girl wrote:

Originally posted by soner_9393 soner_9393 wrote:

Komplicirate. Tokom treninga pijuckajte whey sa dextrozom i kad dođete doma, otuširate se i jedete kruti obrok 


Naravno da kompliciramo, da ne kompliciramo ovaj forum bi imao 80% manje tema



Tako svi forumi funkcioniraju - svi kompliciraju!
A i uvijek se iz komplikacije dozna nešto novo.. tako da ponekad to dobro dođe.


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Posted By: davor23
Date Posted: 09 Rujan 2010 at 12:36
Opcenito ljudi moraju puno komplicirati.. Vecini je dnevni jelovnik
jaaakoo zbrkan i nezdrav, a onda razmisljaju dal ce stavit 30 ili 40g
dekstroze u PWM..

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Posted By: ThornOfFaith
Date Posted: 09 Rujan 2010 at 12:44

Originally posted by davor23 davor23 wrote:

Opcenito ljudi moraju puno komplicirati.. Vecini je dnevni jelovnik
jaaakoo zbrkan i nezdrav, a onda razmisljaju dal ce stavit 30 ili 40g
dekstroze u PWM..
 

hahahahaha ovaj davor postaje carcina  receno rjecnikom feeeejssssbuuka lajkam  



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