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 Topic: Clean&PressPosted: 07 Studeni 2009 at 13:07 |
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Zanimaju me vasa iskustva sa ovom vjezbom jer sam je odlucio ubacit u program.
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ThornOfFaith
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Posted: 07 Studeni 2009 at 13:22 |
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Evo da ponovim ono što sam ti i na pm-u rekao, izuzetna eksplozivna vježba, tehnicki jako složena i zahtjeva dosta vježbanja dok se ne uhvati osnovni psihomotoricki stereotip. Zahtijeva rad cijelog tijela, posebno dobra za gornji dio tijela s naglaskom na deltoide i gornji dio trapeza.
Pravilnu izvedbu se može naci ili na youtubeu ili u knjizi Starting Strength. Doduše ja bih radije išao na razdvajanje cijelog pokreta u nekoliko posebnih vježbi jer je cijeli clean&press manje više dizacka vježba i ukljucuje nekoliko vježbi u sebi. |
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davor23
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Posted: 07 Studeni 2009 at 14:26 |
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E ovo sto si zadnje napisao.. ja razmisljam da ne pocnem vjezbu s utegom dok je na podu, vec da ga dizem sa stalka i pocinjem sa tocke 2 na slici.. dok mi je kod kukova.. jer puno vecu tezinu mogu dignut s poda do pasa(kao mrtvo), a onda znatno manju iznad sebe..
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ThornOfFaith
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Posted: 07 Studeni 2009 at 17:52 |
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Tako je - onda imaš hang clean.
Razumljivo, i sasvim opravdano. |
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davor23
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Posted: 07 Studeni 2009 at 19:36 |
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Ali hang clean sam sad vidio na youtube.. to samo podigne na rame i spusti.. ja bi podignuo na rame.. i onda napravio military press... |
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ThornOfFaith
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Posted: 07 Studeni 2009 at 22:35 |
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hang clean + press (odnosno push press ako koristiš leg drive) Možeš i tako, nitko te ne ogranicava, no kažem, meni je zgodnije razdvojiti te dvije vježbe jer su obje izuzetno zahtjevne. Drugi razlog što razdvajam je to što cleanom dignem više nego pressom pa mi je press ogranicavajuci faktor (zbog manje kilaže) u clean&pressu. |
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davor23
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Posted: 08 Studeni 2009 at 12:20 |
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Zahtjevne jesu,da.. ali kao sto si mi u PM napisao da s obzirom na onaj program, bih dosta trebao toga mjenjat, probat cu ipak odradit tu vjezbu, jer sljedeci trening od ramena koristim lateralno odrucenje, te zadnji dan arnoldov potisak..jedino mozda ako mislis, da posto radim vec military press, da mi ne treba arnoldov? |
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ThornOfFaith
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Posted: 08 Studeni 2009 at 12:27 |
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Tako je. |
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Posted: 08 Studeni 2009 at 12:30 |
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E u tom slucaju ako izbacim arnoldov potisak, mogu odvojit rame na 3 vjezbe, hang clean, military press i lateralno.. |
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 01:16 |
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Clean je preporucljivo prvo poceti uciti samo sa šipkom
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ThornOfFaith
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 01:31 |
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Ne bih rekao, cak štoviše, barem neka mala kilaža je potrebna na krajevima šipke da dobiješ osjecaj težine jer ako si cca 90kg šipka od 20kg ak je olimpijska ti u ruci leži kao cackalica a buduci da je pokret eksplozivan teško ceš to savladat. O tome se govori i u Starting Strength-u. |
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 09:16 |
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Ta knjiga je odlicna.. skinuo sam je, sve je super pojasnjeno u njoj..
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 10:44 |
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 13:06 |
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dobro, naravno, ovisi tko pocinje uciti
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 15:04 |
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Ja sam mislio da sam jaci na clean-u, ali 40kg 6 puta i to je to.. he he
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Posted: 19 Studeni 2009 at 16:03 |
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brzo ti uciš :O
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